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Poster: northstar dead Date: Apr 13, 2008 5:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

Agree, 77 is such a strong year. And so many great shows. I love the June Winterland shows, Buffalo, Swing, Chicago, Springfield, Hartford etc... Just a question, when is the last time you listened to the show? I am not saying it is my favorite show ever, not by a long shot. But the vibe was there that night.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Apr 13, 2008 7:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

I've listened to discs 2 and 3 within the past year, but disc 1 not so recently (and I promise to do so soon). I agree with you about the vibe, but I'm a bloodless aesthetician looking for musical interest much more than atmosphere.

Another judgment that has long bewildered me is the celebration of the 8-6-71 Hard to Handle. Pig's much weaker than in any number of 1970 renditions. And Jerry's guitar solo, while stirring (especially in the aud, where you hear how worked up everyone's getting), has very little musical content. By contrast, the solo the night after entertains me more even though it's not as solid.

This post was modified by Lou Davenport on 2008-04-14 02:14:21

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 14, 2008 8:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

Yikes Lou! We agree on so much...I find Jerry's work on this in my top five all time...AUD defn lends to that.

Ah well--if we all agreed everytime it wouldn't be worth coming round here, would it?

Hope all is well!

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Apr 14, 2008 12:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

If you want ideal examples of what aspects of Jerry's playing I most enjoy, you could listen to practically any minute of the Winterland 1973 box (damn, I'm enjoying that set!), which I believe you own--but in particular the Me and Bobby McGee and Eyes from 11/11. The M&BM is one of the most astonishing performances of anything I've ever heard.

I've been crazy busy and am nursing a mild head cold, but generally I'm enjoying life--thanks for asking. And yourself?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 14, 2008 1:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

Well, thanks.

Hah--do appreciate the work of Jerry on that 73 set. See exactly what you mean. Truth is though, I prefer the "punch" to his sound from the 71 versions of most of those same songs. The 73 is almost a bit too polished, a bit too jazzy, though I doubt that makes much sense. My friend who is a long time lead guitarist said "fall of 73 is where Jerry is a musicians lead guitarist" and though I don't know entirely what that means either, I have a sense of it...I know from conversations with MSun here that I often go for sounds based on energy and punch rather than pure proficiency, and I know you well enough to know you probably see/hear things I cannot too, just as MSun can...

Like I said--that's why we are here. To hear ourselves talk, and to pick up some education now and again.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Apr 14, 2008 1:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

Energy and punch? Well, that's why you're so obsessed with the 12-29-68 The Other One. BTW, have you listened to 2-27-69 TOO recently? I did a few nights ago, and it struck me as Phil's equivalent of what Jerry was doing on 12-29-68.

Jazzy is what I most love from the boys, though I also like the fierce edge of 68-69, but best when they're also being jazzy, as in the 3-1-69 TOO or in the jamming in New Potato Caboose.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 14, 2008 1:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do you think of my "Essential Grateful Dead?"

LOL; yep, that's it!

Will have to check out the Fillmore OO you mention again...

Also recalled that the bass player I knew (these two were in the band I worked for as a low rent roadie) also thought of 73 as the peak.

I can accept that in many ways the boys got better, and better, and may have peaked in 73 (77?) rather than 68-70 for a number of aspects...suppose that at times it is almost apples/oranges when I am saying "68 is best!" as I am talking about something a bit different, as you note.

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